From sylviachurchwell at windstream.net  Sat Mar  1 13:39:40 2008
From: sylviachurchwell at windstream.net (Sylvia Churchwell)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:39:40 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] LCFinance Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1
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Kaye, the Conference Treasurer's Office has a recommendation for all record 
retentions that I received
at their training session.

They state that it is an excellent idea for the church to discuss and adopt 
a record retention policy.  Their
table gives suggested guidelines based on both legal and practical 
considerations.  I'm sure they would send you a copy.

Sylvia J. Churchwell


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> Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church procedure
> for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our 'counters' come in on Monday. 
> We
> currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems to think this
> raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and out rather than
> holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone like to volunteer
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> what doesn't? Thanks for help!
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> Wendy, we place our offering into a safe at the church. I have had the 
> unpleasant experience of my wife bringing home church money that was 
> stolen during a break in. Lucky for?us it was for her UMW group and was 
> not a large sum of money. However, we felt responsible to replace the 
> money stolen. I would recommend looking into a drop off box at the bank 
> for the day of collection or away to secure the money on site at the 
> church. Someone from the finance committee is responsible for placing the 
> money in the?safe each Sunday. Even though there are a handful of people 
> with access to the?safe,?it has never presented a problem.
>
> phil young?
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> Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church procedure 
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> We currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems to think this 
> raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and out rather than 
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> We drop our deposit in the night depository at our bank on Sunday. The
> church secretary picks it up on Monday and does the deposit, etc.
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>>>> wthompson at firstmethodistrm.org 2/29 5:00 pm >>>
> Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church
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> for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our 'counters' come in on
> Monday. We
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> raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and out rather
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> Kaye, I have a document that my home church just drew up about this that 
> is very thorough and follows IRS guidelines.  If you would send me your 
> e-mail, I will send it to you.  I do not want to bother the whole group 
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From trinityfinance at embarqmail.com  Sat Mar  1 17:16:16 2008
From: trinityfinance at embarqmail.com (Trinity United Methodist Church Finance Officer)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:16:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [LCFinance] Church Financial Records
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Kaye, I agree with Sylvia Churchwell. The information that is provided each year at the annual Church Treasurer Training sessions are exceptionally good. Included in the notebook are great resources including record retention, W-2's for pastors, state sales tax refunds, etc. I highly recommend this to you and anyone in this position. The class is free and the notebook alone is worth the drive to the Conference office. If needed, I will be glad to send you the information in the notebook on Monday. 

Don Horne, Financial Officer 
Trinity UMC 
Jacksonville, NC 


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From pforeman2 at clis.com  Sat Mar  1 18:17:58 2008
From: pforeman2 at clis.com (Buddy Foreman)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:17:58 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Church Financial Records
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Kaye
Go to www.gcfa.org/financialservices.html#, then click on FORMS/REPORTS, on drop down menu, high light resources then click on record retention.

Buddy Foreman
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From lcslawrence at msn.com  Sun Mar  2 18:01:01 2008
From: lcslawrence at msn.com (Linda Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:01:01 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
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I thought all monies were to be counted the day of collections, either during service or immediately following, then deposited.


From: wthompson at firstmethodistrm.orgTo: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.orgDate: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:03 -0500Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections




Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church procedure for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our ?counters? come in on Monday. We currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems to think this raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and out rather than holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone like to volunteer their thoughts, not necessarily your church procedures, on what works and what doesn?t? Thanks for help!
 
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From busadmin at wpumc.org  Mon Mar  3 08:14:30 2008
From: busadmin at wpumc.org (Candy Brown)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:14:30 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
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What we do here is the counters count the money on Sunday and then deposit
into nite drop at bank. On Monday morning, we go back to the bank, 

pick up money and bring back to church to recount and enter into computer,
then deposit on Monday afternoon. It works great for us. 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Candy Brown

 

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[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Linda Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:01 PM
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I thought all monies were to be counted the day of collections, either
during service or immediately following, then deposited.

  _____  

From: wthompson at firstmethodistrm.org
To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:03 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church procedure
for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our 'counters' come in on Monday. We
currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems to think this
raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and out rather than
holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone like to volunteer
their thoughts, not necessarily your church procedures, on what works and
what doesn't? Thanks for help!

 

 


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From priscilla.denning at duke.edu  Mon Mar  3 08:26:44 2008
From: priscilla.denning at duke.edu (Priscilla Denning)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:26:44 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
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Wendi,
We count our money the same day.  We have several members count the money 
and then the finance secretary take the money home and deposits it the 
next day.

Priscilla Denning
Duke Temporary Service
Phone:  919-681-4813
Fax: 919-681-7926
Someone away? Call Duke Temporary Service today!
681-3132



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Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church procedure 
for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our ?counters? come in on Monday. 
We currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems to think this 
raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and out rather than 
holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone like to volunteer 
their thoughts, not necessarily your church procedures, on what works and 
what doesn?t? Thanks for help!
 
 

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From hhinton at soapstoneumc.org  Mon Mar  3 08:29:50 2008
From: hhinton at soapstoneumc.org (Helen Hinton)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:29:50 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
Message-ID: <8936CC9092AC1A4FAAB8FF4CB0CE375C344BAC@solomon.soapstoneumc.local>

We also have counters who count the money after church on Sunday & then
puts it in our church safe.  The Financial secretary comes in on Monday
morning & enters it all in the computer & then makes the weekly deposit.
This has been successful for us.  Sometimes, though,  we might have
trouble getting counters.

 

Helen Hinton

 

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[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Candy Brown
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:15 AM
To: 'Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers'
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

 

What we do here is the counters count the money on Sunday and then
deposit into nite drop at bank. On Monday morning, we go back to the
bank, 

pick up money and bring back to church to recount and enter into
computer, then deposit on Monday afternoon. It works great for us. 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Candy Brown

 

________________________________

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[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Linda
Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:01 PM
To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

 


I thought all monies were to be counted the day of collections, either
during service or immediately following, then deposited.

________________________________

From: wthompson at firstmethodistrm.org
To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:03 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church
procedure for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our 'counters' come in
on Monday. We currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems
to think this raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and
out rather than holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone
like to volunteer their thoughts, not necessarily your church
procedures, on what works and what doesn't? Thanks for help!

 

 


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From Amie at centralbuildersinc.com  Mon Mar  3 10:26:58 2008
From: Amie at centralbuildersinc.com (Amie Perkins)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:26:58 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
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We just instituted a new policy for handling the major church offering.
We have teams of counters(2 unrelated per team) that count once a month.
They prepare the deposit at the church on Sunday after the service, then
drop the deposit in the night drop at our bank.  The financial secretary
gets the deposit envelopes and totals from the deposit, but never
touches the money.  The treasurer gets a small report on the dollar
amounts and if any are designated for special funds.  That way, we limit
the number of people who touch the money and the places the money "goes"
to.  

Our counters prefer to work after the service, but I would think placing
the money in a safe place(lockable fire proof file cabinet, safe, etc.)
until the next day would also be acceptable.

Amie Perkins


Amie Perkins

Central Builders Inc. of Mebane
336-227-4551
 

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I thought all monies were to be counted the day of collections, either
during service or immediately following, then deposited.


From: wthompson at firstmethodistrm.orgTo:
lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.orgDate: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:03
-0500Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections




Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church
procedure for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our ?counters? come in
on Monday. We currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems
to think this raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and
out rather than holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone
like to volunteer their thoughts, not necessarily your church
procedures, on what works and what doesn?t? Thanks for help!
 
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:14:30 -0500
From: "Candy Brown" <busadmin at wpumc.org>
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
To: "'Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers'"
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What we do here is the counters count the money on Sunday and then
deposit
into nite drop at bank. On Monday morning, we go back to the bank, 

pick up money and bring back to church to recount and enter into
computer,
then deposit on Monday afternoon. It works great for us. 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Candy Brown

 

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From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org
[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Linda
Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:01 PM
To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

 


I thought all monies were to be counted the day of collections, either
during service or immediately following, then deposited.

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From: wthompson at firstmethodistrm.org
To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:03 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church
procedure
for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our 'counters' come in on
Monday. We
currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems to think this
raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and out rather
than
holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone like to
volunteer
their thoughts, not necessarily your church procedures, on what works
and
what doesn't? Thanks for help!

 

 


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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:26:44 -0500
From: Priscilla Denning <priscilla.denning at duke.edu>
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers
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Wendi,
We count our money the same day.  We have several members count the
money 
and then the finance secretary take the money home and deposits it the 
next day.

Priscilla Denning
Duke Temporary Service
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Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church
procedure 
for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our ?counters? come in on
Monday. 
We currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems to think
this 
raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and out rather
than 
holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone like to
volunteer 
their thoughts, not necessarily your church procedures, on what works
and 
what doesn?t? Thanks for help!
 
 

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:29:50 -0500
From: "Helen Hinton" <hhinton at soapstoneumc.org>
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
To: "Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers"
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We also have counters who count the money after church on Sunday & then
puts it in our church safe.  The Financial secretary comes in on Monday
morning & enters it all in the computer & then makes the weekly deposit.
This has been successful for us.  Sometimes, though,  we might have
trouble getting counters.

 

Helen Hinton

 

From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org
[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Candy Brown
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:15 AM
To: 'Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers'
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

 

What we do here is the counters count the money on Sunday and then
deposit into nite drop at bank. On Monday morning, we go back to the
bank, 

pick up money and bring back to church to recount and enter into
computer, then deposit on Monday afternoon. It works great for us. 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Candy Brown

 

________________________________

From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org
[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Linda
Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:01 PM
To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

 


I thought all monies were to be counted the day of collections, either
during service or immediately following, then deposited.

________________________________

From: wthompson at firstmethodistrm.org
To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:03 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections

Our finance committee is in the process of reviewing the church
procedure for safe-guarding Sunday offering until our 'counters' come in
on Monday. We currently deposit the money off-site but our chair seems
to think this raises more of a security risk by moving the money in and
out rather than holding on to the money until the next day. Would anyone
like to volunteer their thoughts, not necessarily your church
procedures, on what works and what doesn't? Thanks for help!

 

 


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From cwstan at earthlink.net  Mon Mar  3 12:48:38 2008
From: cwstan at earthlink.net (Brenda Berry)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:48:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday Collections
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From jane.millen at mac.com  Mon Mar  3 14:16:49 2008
From: jane.millen at mac.com (Jane Millen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:16:49 -0800
Subject: [LCFinance] Sunday collections
Message-ID: <1E752070-0118-1000-9883-22CB1BC2F78E-Webmail-10021@mac.com>

Our procedures are similar to some that have been described except our interpretation of the Discipline (please correct us if we are wrong) has been that neither the Treasurer nor the Financial Secretary is allowed to count the offering.  As others have described, we have two unrelated counters from two separate households who count the offering after worship (also one Sunday each month).  They complete both the bank deposit and a contribution log and drop the deposit in the night deposit at the bank.  The Finance Secretary receives both the duplicate copy of the deposit slip and the contribution log (just an Excel spreadsheet providing names of donors and space for designations of gifts, if applicable).  The Treasurer receives only the summary page of that log which has totals for each type of gift (designated or undesignated) with no names of donors.  We are not a large church and have relatively little cash in our deposit so a church that receives a significant amount of cash may not be comfortable with our procedure.  In contrast to other procedures that have been described, the church never retrieves the offering from the bank after it has been deposited - that was a new concept to me.  The bank simply notifies the treasurer if there is a discrepancy between the deposit and the deposit slip.  

Jane Millen
Resurrection UMC
Durham


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From nandrews at nc.rr.com  Fri Mar  7 14:29:52 2008
From: nandrews at nc.rr.com (Nell Andrews)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:29:52 -0500
Subject: [LCFinance] File Storage
Message-ID: <000601c88089$9df0fbb0$abf0d318@Nell>

We no longer have sufficient file cabinet storage space for all the financial and other required paperwork at our church.
What methods for storage are other churches using when they run out of file cabinet space?
Nell Andrews, Chair, Finance Committee
Palmer's Grove UMC
Hillsborough, NC
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From amanda.milburn at us.army.mil  Wed Mar 12 09:35:33 2008
From: amanda.milburn at us.army.mil (Milburn, Amanda L Mrs DoD Ben FORSCOM)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:35:33 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
Message-ID: <d875c9b4f284.47d7a3e5@us.army.mil>

Hi,

Our church collected a special offering for the Hope for Wells. I'm not sure who this offering goes to or who the check should be made out to. Does anyone know?

Thanks,
Amanda

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From nandrews at nc.rr.com  Wed Mar 12 10:05:21 2008
From: nandrews at nc.rr.com (Nell Andrews)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:05:21 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] File Storage
Message-ID: <001d01c8844a$1c62ea30$abf0d318@Nell>

Good Morning Jennifer,
I sent a message to LCFinance at listserv.nccumc.org a few days ago.
What did I do wrong?  I havent' seen the question nor any answers.
Nell
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From krattie at embarqmail.com  Wed Mar 12 10:37:24 2008
From: krattie at embarqmail.com (Kathy Rattie)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:37:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [LCFinance] File Storage
In-Reply-To: <001d01c8844a$1c62ea30$abf0d318@Nell>
Message-ID: <4003098.7955821205332644202.JavaMail.root@md07.embarq.synacor.com>

I got your email. You may have choses a digest setting. And as far as I know there haven't been any respones. 

Sorry, I don't have an answer for you. In the training booklet there was a listing of the recommended dates for record retention. A lot of stuff you have to keep permanently. Would the IRS accept electronic record retention? A few years ago, they did not accept this, however, it would solve the space problem. 

Kathy Rattie 
Treasurer 
Christ Community UMC 
Clayton, NC 


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To: "Jennifer Echert" <lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:05:21 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York 
Subject: [LCFinance] File Storage 



Good Morning Jennifer, 
I sent a message to LCFinance at listserv.nccumc.org a few days ago. 
What did I do wrong? I havent' seen the question nor any answers. 
Nell 
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From christine at nccumc.org  Wed Mar 12 10:59:32 2008
From: christine at nccumc.org (Christine Dodson)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:59:32 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
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References: <d875c9b4f284.47d7a3e5@us.army.mil>
Message-ID: <BC32A6B895273C46A2A5E2EA8AAD90F201436C88@solomon.raleigh.umc>

We can't find an exact match anywhere for a Hope for Wells project.  The
Zimbabwe Orphan Endeavor has a well program but their director said it
is not named Hope for Wells - it doesn't really have an official name
but it does provide funding for wells in Zimbabwe.  There is also a
project through the GBGM for wells in Sierra Leone.

I googled Hope for wells and found an organization by the name of Wells
of Hope that does prison ministry in Africa.  I am not sure if that is
what your church was looking for.

If you have other details that we can help you research, let us know.

Christine


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[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Milburn,
Amanda L Mrs DoD Ben FORSCOM
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:36 AM
To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering

Hi,

Our church collected a special offering for the Hope for Wells. I'm not
sure who this offering goes to or who the check should be made out to.
Does anyone know?

Thanks,
Amanda

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From finance at haystreetchurch.org  Wed Mar 12 11:24:43 2008
From: finance at haystreetchurch.org (Dee Stafford)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:24:43 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
In-Reply-To: <d875c9b4f284.47d7a3e5@us.army.mil>
Message-ID: <001001c88455$32acef60$7801a8c0@hsumc>

Our latest special offering was for "One Great Hour of Sharing"---could it
be that???
Dee Stafford, Hay Street UMC

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[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org]On Behalf Of Milburn,
Amanda L Mrs DoD Ben FORSCOM
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:36 AM
To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering


Hi,

Our church collected a special offering for the Hope for Wells. I'm not sure
who this offering goes to or who the check should be made out to. Does
anyone know?

Thanks,
Amanda

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From cwstan at earthlink.net  Wed Mar 12 11:28:34 2008
From: cwstan at earthlink.net (Brenda Berry)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:28:34 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
Message-ID: <28112060.1205335714924.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Amanda, I am sorry but I can not help you!  We also had an offering for the one Great Hour of Sharing and the Zimbawe orphanage but not one for Hope wells.  Good luck.  You might want to contact someone in UMW who might know about their various mission work.  Have a good day!  Brenda Berry Walnut Grove United Meth. Church

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Milburn, Amanda L Mrs DoD Ben FORSCOM" <amanda.milburn at us.army.mil>
>Sent: Mar 12, 2008 8:35 AM
>To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
>Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
>
>Hi,
>
>Our church collected a special offering for the Hope for Wells. I'm not sure who this offering goes to or who the check should be made out to. Does anyone know?
>
>Thanks,
>Amanda
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From marthaclewis at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 12 13:11:56 2008
From: marthaclewis at hotmail.com (Martha Lewis)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:11:56 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
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References: <28112060.1205335714924.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Its actually "wells of hope" 
 
This was part of the One Great Hour of Sharing literature this year. To see the bulletin insert that specifically mentions these wells, go to URL: http://new.gbgm-umc.org/umcor/media/oghs/OGHS%2008.Web%20Bullentin.F.pdf
 
According to http://new.gbgm-umc.org/UMCOR/give/oghs/
 
LIFE-CHANGING MINISTRY-A RESPONSE TO GOD'S LOVE 
You and your congregation can join United Methodists worldwide by making a special offering through One Great Hour of Sharing to support humanitarian aid through UMCOR. You can be assured that when catastrophes cause suffering, your church, impelled by Jesus' love and compassion, will be in the lead to ease the pain. 
THE 2008 OFFERING SUNDAY MARCH 2?ESSENTIAL TO UMCOR 
Gifts to this offering underwrite UMCOR's "costs of doing business." That helps us keep our promise that 100 percent of every other gift you make to a specific UMCOR project can be spent on that project-not on home office costs. 
UMCOR is a good steward of God's gifts. Offering gifts over and above those used to cover administrative costs are channeled where they're most needed. UMCOR's specialized ministries-responding in disaster, fighting hunger, alleviating poverty, providing relief supplies around the world, and offering hospitality to immigrants and refugees-all assist the most vulnerable people whose need is greatest. 
NO WORLD SERVICE FUNDS COME TO UMCOR
UMCOR receives no World Service funds or any other apportionments. Your gifts mean we're right there with hardworking families, people who are affected by storms or war, disaster or disease. 
"The One Great Hour of Sharing offering on March 2, 2008, provides for those basic needs that make the rest of UMCOR's work possible," says the Rev. Sam W. Dixon, Deputy General Secretary of UMCOR. "Without this offering so much of what UMCOR does to bring hope and healing to the world could not happen."
 
Martha Lewis phone: 252-638-3213 cell: 252-259-2877 fax: 866-446-7562 e-mail: marthaclewis at hotmail.com > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:28:34 -0500> From: cwstan at earthlink.net> To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org> Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering> > Amanda, I am sorry but I can not help you! We also had an offering for the one Great Hour of Sharing and the Zimbawe orphanage but not one for Hope wells. Good luck. You might want to contact someone in UMW who might know about their various mission work. Have a good day! Brenda Berry Walnut Grove United Meth. Church> > -----Original Message-----> >From: "Milburn, Amanda L Mrs DoD Ben FORSCOM" <amanda.milburn at us.army.mil>> >Sent: Mar 12, 2008 8:35 AM> >To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org> >Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering> >> >Hi,> >> >Our church collected a special offering for the Hope for Wells. I'm not sure who this offering goes to or who the check should be made out to. Does anyone know?> >> >Thanks,> >Amanda> >> >-- > >This message has been scanned for viruses and> >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is> >believed to be clean.> >> >_______________________________________________> >LCFinance mailing list> >LCFinance at listserv.nccumc.org> >http://listserv.nccumc.org/mailman/listinfo/lcfinance> > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is> believed to be clean.> > _______________________________________________> LCFinance mailing list> LCFinance at listserv.nccumc.org> http://listserv.nccumc.org/mailman/listinfo/lcfinance
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From christine at nccumc.org  Wed Mar 12 14:25:51 2008
From: christine at nccumc.org (Christine Dodson)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:25:51 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
In-Reply-To: <BAY134-W45A8718593DC92CA1226C3CB080@phx.gbl>
References: <28112060.1205335714924.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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In that case, you can send it to the Treasurer's Office on your regular
remittance form on the One Great Hour of Sharing line.

 

Christine

 

 

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From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org
[mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Martha Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:12 PM
To: Brenda Berry; Local Church Finance Committee andTreasurers
Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering

 

Its actually "wells of hope" 
 
This was part of the One Great Hour of Sharing literature this year. To
see the bulletin insert that specifically mentions these wells, go to
URL:
http://new.gbgm-umc.org/umcor/media/oghs/OGHS%2008.Web%20Bullentin.F.pdf
 
According to http://new.gbgm-umc.org/UMCOR/give/oghs/
 
LIFE-CHANGING MINISTRY-A RESPONSE TO GOD'S LOVE 
You and your congregation can join United Methodists worldwide by making
a special offering through One Great Hour of Sharing to support
humanitarian aid through UMCOR. You can be assured that when
catastrophes cause suffering, your church, impelled by Jesus' love and
compassion, will be in the lead to ease the pain. 
THE 2008 OFFERING SUNDAY MARCH 2-ESSENTIAL TO UMCOR 
Gifts to this offering underwrite UMCOR's "costs of doing business."
That helps us keep our promise that 100 percent of every other gift you
make to a specific UMCOR project can be spent on that project-not on
home office costs. 
UMCOR is a good steward of God's gifts. Offering gifts over and above
those used to cover administrative costs are channeled where they're
most needed. UMCOR's specialized ministries-responding in disaster,
fighting hunger, alleviating poverty, providing relief supplies around
the world, and offering hospitality to immigrants and refugees-all
assist the most vulnerable people whose need is greatest. 
NO WORLD SERVICE FUNDS COME TO UMCOR
UMCOR receives no World Service funds or any other apportionments. Your
gifts mean we're right there with hardworking families, people who are
affected by storms or war, disaster or disease. 
"The One Great Hour of Sharing offering on March 2, 2008, provides for
those basic needs that make the rest of UMCOR's work possible," says the
Rev. Sam W. Dixon, Deputy General Secretary of UMCOR. "Without this
offering so much of what UMCOR does to bring hope and healing to the
world could not happen."


 

Martha Lewis 

phone: 252-638-3213 
cell: 252-259-2877 
fax: 866-446-7562 
e-mail: marthaclewis at hotmail.com 



> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:28:34 -0500
> From: cwstan at earthlink.net
> To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
> Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
> 
> Amanda, I am sorry but I can not help you! We also had an offering for
the one Great Hour of Sharing and the Zimbawe orphanage but not one for
Hope wells. Good luck. You might want to contact someone in UMW who
might know about their various mission work. Have a good day! Brenda
Berry Walnut Grove United Meth. Church
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "Milburn, Amanda L Mrs DoD Ben FORSCOM"
<amanda.milburn at us.army.mil>
> >Sent: Mar 12, 2008 8:35 AM
> >To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org
> >Subject: [LCFinance] Hope for Wells offering
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >Our church collected a special offering for the Hope for Wells. I'm
not sure who this offering goes to or who the check should be made out
to. Does anyone know?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Amanda
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From christine at nccumc.org  Mon Mar 17 10:15:33 2008
From: christine at nccumc.org (Christine Dodson)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:15:33 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] Stimulus Payment Help
Message-ID: <BC32A6B895273C46A2A5E2EA8AAD90F201436CAA@solomon.raleigh.umc>

Friends,

 

The IRS is trying to enlist help from organizations in letting folks who
would be entitled to receive an economic stimulus payment but do not
normally file a tax return know what they need to do to get their
payments.  I have included the write up from the IRS below.  Please keep
this in mind as you consider if there might be any retired individuals
in your churches who could benefit from this and maybe let them know how
they can get more information.  



Christine

 

 

 

 


Economic Stimulus Payments: How Organizations Can Help

 	 
 

 	 
The IRS is encouraging various partners and stakeholders such as
charities, churches and governmental organizations to assist in efforts
to reach out to those Americans who may be eligible for the 2008
economic stimulus payment but who normally have no requirement to file a
tax return. People who receive certain Social Security, Veterans
Affairs, Railroad Retirement or wages from earned income or combat pay
may be eligible and not know it.

The IRS has created a special Web page for interested organizations:
Economic Stimulus Payments: Marketing Products for Partners
<http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179735,00.html> . This page
contains one-page flyers that you can copy, the Package 1040A-3 (a
10-page booklet that contains everything certain people need to file a
return today), Radio PSAs, Logos, etc. This page is part of the Economic
Stimulus Payments Information Center
<http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=177937,00.html>  on IRS.gov, which
provides information on eligibility and other requirements. The IRS
appreciates any assistance you can provide.

Date posted:  March 12, 2008

 

 

 

Christine Dodson, CPA, MBA

Conference Treasurer

NC Conference/United Methodist Church

(919) 832-9560

 


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From christine at nccumc.org  Mon Mar 31 14:21:42 2008
From: christine at nccumc.org (Christine Dodson)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:21:42 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving
Message-ID: <BC32A6B895273C46A2A5E2EA8AAD90F201436DA4@solomon.raleigh.umc>

Do any of you use the UM Electronic Giving program?  Would you like to
share how that is working out for you?

 

Thanks!

Christine

 

 

________________________________

From: Kathy Rattie [mailto:krattie at embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:06 PM
To: Christine Dodson
Subject: Online Giving

 

We are looking into including online giving on our church website.
We've looked at Electronic Giving for United Methodist Churches website
and are very interested.  Are there any churches locally that are using
this type of giving and if so how well is it working?  

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kathy Rattie, Treasurer
Christ Community UMC
Clayton, NC


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From jarvisfinance at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 31 14:54:44 2008
From: jarvisfinance at earthlink.net (Jule Baxter)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:54:44 -0400
Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving
References: <BC32A6B895273C46A2A5E2EA8AAD90F201436DA4@solomon.raleigh.umc>
Message-ID: <02dc01c89360$afbb99b0$dc00000a@ChurchSextonpc>

Could you please let me know what website that information is on?

Thank you,

Jule Baxter
Jarvis Memorial UMC
Greenville, NC
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  From: Christine Dodson 
  To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers 
  Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:21 PM
  Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving


  Do any of you use the UM Electronic Giving program?  Would you like to share how that is working out for you?

   

  Thanks!

  Christine

   

   


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  From: Kathy Rattie [mailto:krattie at embarqmail.com] 
  Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:06 PM
  To: Christine Dodson
  Subject: Online Giving

   

  We are looking into including online giving on our church website.  We've looked at Electronic Giving for United Methodist Churches website and are very interested.  Are there any churches locally that are using this type of giving and if so how well is it working?  

  Thanks in advance for your help.

  Kathy Rattie, Treasurer
  Christ Community UMC
  Clayton, NC


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