From cwstan at earthlink.net Tue Apr 1 13:29:53 2008 From: cwstan at earthlink.net (Brenda Berry) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:29:53 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving Message-ID: <12774957.1207070994014.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/24f9d475/attachment.html From cwstan at earthlink.net Tue Apr 1 13:33:59 2008 From: cwstan at earthlink.net (Brenda Berry) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:33:59 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Non Contributions to the church Message-ID: <10772878.1207071240249.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/bb58ef62/attachment.html From christine at nccumc.org Tue Apr 1 13:58:49 2008 From: christine at nccumc.org (Christine Dodson) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:58:49 -0400 Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving In-Reply-To: <02dc01c89360$afbb99b0$dc00000a@ChurchSextonpc> References: <02dc01c89360$afbb99b0$dc00000a@ChurchSextonpc> Message-ID: http://www.vancoservices.com/umeft.htm It is also mentioned on the gcfa.org website but you eventually have to go to the Vanco site for more info. Christine ________________________________ From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org [mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Jule Baxter Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:55 PM To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Subject: Re: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving Could you please let me know what website that information is on? Thank you, Jule Baxter Jarvis Memorial UMC Greenville, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Dodson To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving Do any of you use the UM Electronic Giving program? Would you like to share how that is working out for you? Thanks! Christine ________________________________ From: Kathy Rattie [mailto:krattie at embarqmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:06 PM To: Christine Dodson Subject: Online Giving We are looking into including online giving on our church website. We've looked at Electronic Giving for United Methodist Churches website and are very interested. Are there any churches locally that are using this type of giving and if so how well is it working? Thanks in advance for your help. Kathy Rattie, Treasurer Christ Community UMC Clayton, NC -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner , and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner , and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ LCFinance mailing list LCFinance at listserv.nccumc.org http://listserv.nccumc.org/mailman/listinfo/lcfinance -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner , and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/57a0e235/attachment.html From krattie at embarqmail.com Tue Apr 1 13:59:12 2008 From: krattie at embarqmail.com (Kathy Rattie) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Non Contributions to the church In-Reply-To: <10772878.1207071240249.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <11633228.2906771207072752125.JavaMail.root@md07.embarq.synacor.com> We use Quickbooks and have set up classes to separate out the funds. We also have it in our accounting procedures that fundraising money that is not specifically designated is used prior to any budgeted funds. For example, our youth group raises funds throughout the year, however those funds "belong" to the youth raising the funds until the mission trip, at that point the funds are used to pay for the trip. When the youth group raises funds for general youth purposes, then that money would be used prior to any budgeted money given to them. That would "free up" budgeted money to be used for other purposes. If your accounting software doesn't allow for classes, try to set up an excel spreadsheet to keep the funds separate. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Berry" To: "Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers" Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 1:33:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: [LCFinance] FW: Non Contributions to the church How do you all handle contributions like fundraisers for groups that have money given them through the budget but need to raise money from bake sales ect. in your accounting procedures? Our pastor wants to keep separate the acutal contributions for the church from the fundraisers. We are using Church Windows as our accounting program. Thank you for any insight that you may be able to give. 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Bob Smith North Raleigh United Methodist ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Dodson To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving http://www.vancoservices.com/umeft.htm It is also mentioned on the gcfa.org website but you eventually have to go to the Vanco site for more info. Christine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org [mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Jule Baxter Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:55 PM To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Subject: Re: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving Could you please let me know what website that information is on? Thank you, Jule Baxter Jarvis Memorial UMC Greenville, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Dodson To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving Do any of you use the UM Electronic Giving program? Would you like to share how that is working out for you? Thanks! Christine ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathy Rattie [mailto:krattie at embarqmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:06 PM To: Christine Dodson Subject: Online Giving We are looking into including online giving on our church website. We've looked at Electronic Giving for United Methodist Churches website and are very interested. Are there any churches locally that are using this type of giving and if so how well is it working? Thanks in advance for your help. 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URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/51406df1/attachment.html From XPDunn at aol.com Tue Apr 1 15:13:27 2008 From: XPDunn at aol.com (XPDunn at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:13:27 EDT Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving Message-ID: Christine, We at St. Peter's are not using the UM electronic giving program. I feel like I should be more familiar with this electronic givng program. Where can we get more information? We may not use it now, but it would be good to be more familiar with the concept and implementation, and the experience other churches have had with the program. Thanks for asking the question and beginning the dialogue on this subject. Patrice ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15& ncid=aolhom00030000000001) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/30d645fe/attachment.html From XPDunn at aol.com Tue Apr 1 15:58:31 2008 From: XPDunn at aol.com (XPDunn at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:58:31 EDT Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Non Contributions to the church Message-ID: Brenda, We keep normal plate offering and special plate offerings separate from fundraisers by using a large Excel speed sheet. We have used this for the last several years. We are now in the process of moving to Shepherd's Staff software as our church accounting package. Our goal for Shepherd's Staff is to be able to account for theses categories of offering income vs. fundraising income, separately. Our rationale for keeping these categories separate was that we found that our fundraisers generated large contributions but happened only 2 or 3 times a years and could not be held more often. These fundraisers caused average monthly income to swing higher during the month of the fundraiser and gave a different financial trend than during other non-fundraising months. The regular, non-fundraising months are what we use to base our initial budget on. The fundraiser income gives us the extra income for large projects or unexpected expenses. We add the fundraiser income to the first past of the budget based on our projection as to how often we will be able to do this fundraiser in the next year and what we project to raise from the fundraiser next year. We, likewise, believe it is important to track these two categories separately (regular income vs. fundraising income) even if you combined them in the end. Patrice Finance Chair St. Peter's UMC Oxford, NC xpdunn at aol.com ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/31c914d0/attachment.html From jarvisfinance at earthlink.net Tue Apr 1 17:47:06 2008 From: jarvisfinance at earthlink.net (Jule Baxter) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:47:06 -0400 Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving References: <02dc01c89360$afbb99b0$dc00000a@ChurchSextonpc> Message-ID: <00dc01c89441$ee378460$dc00000a@ChurchSextonpc> Thanks Christine! I think our church would like to move towards this program because it would help during the summer months when our giving tends to be lower due to members spending time at the beach and/or on summer vacations. ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Dodson To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving http://www.vancoservices.com/umeft.htm It is also mentioned on the gcfa.org website but you eventually have to go to the Vanco site for more info. Christine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org [mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of Jule Baxter Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:55 PM To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Subject: Re: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving Could you please let me know what website that information is on? Thank you, Jule Baxter Jarvis Memorial UMC Greenville, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Dodson To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving Do any of you use the UM Electronic Giving program? Would you like to share how that is working out for you? Thanks! Christine ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathy Rattie [mailto:krattie at embarqmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:06 PM To: Christine Dodson Subject: Online Giving We are looking into including online giving on our church website. We've looked at Electronic Giving for United Methodist Churches website and are very interested. Are there any churches locally that are using this type of giving and if so how well is it working? Thanks in advance for your help. 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URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/9b589102/attachment.html From jane.millen at mac.com Tue Apr 1 17:51:05 2008 From: jane.millen at mac.com (Jane Millen) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:51:05 -0700 Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41C2510A-0119-1000-9290-3E362D2F4325-Webmail-10010@mac.com> We have used Vanco for several years and the number of members who use the system has steadily increased. I am not aware of any problems we have had other than a glitch when someone changed bank accounts. Some of our members who are used to doing everything electronically really appreciate having it available. If you have specific questions feel free to contact me - our Financial Secretary handles that end of the process but I can put you in contact with her. Jane Millen Resurrection UMC Durham jane.millen at mac.com On Monday, March 31, 2008, at 02:21PM, "Christine Dodson" wrote: >Do any of you use the UM Electronic Giving program? Would you like to >share how that is working out for you? > > > >Thanks! > >Christine > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: Kathy Rattie [mailto:krattie at embarqmail.com] >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:06 PM >To: Christine Dodson >Subject: Online Giving > > > >We are looking into including online giving on our church website. >We've looked at Electronic Giving for United Methodist Churches website >and are very interested. Are there any churches locally that are using >this type of giving and if so how well is it working? > >Thanks in advance for your help. > >Kathy Rattie, Treasurer >Christ Community UMC >Clayton, NC > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner , and is > >believed to be clean. > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From Don.Horne at tumc-jax.org Tue Apr 1 16:55:22 2008 From: Don.Horne at tumc-jax.org (Don Horne) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:55:22 -0400 Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Non Contributions to the church In-Reply-To: <7B5E90AA71AC40D8969485936AE03EBC@tumcjax.local> References: <7B5E90AA71AC40D8969485936AE03EBC@tumcjax.local> Message-ID: We have used Shepherd's Staff software for many years and it does a great job of tracking these types of giving. I think you would be extremely happy with it for your church. Don Horne Trinity UMC Jacksonville, NC From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org [mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of XPDunn at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:16 PM To: cwstan at earthlink.net Cc: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org Subject: Re: [LCFinance] FW: Non Contributions to the church Brenda, We keep normal plate offering and special plate offerings separate from fundraisers by using a large Excel speed sheet. We have used this for the last several years. We are now in the process of moving to Shepherd's Staff software as our church accounting package. Our goal for Shepherd's Staff is to be able to account for theses categories of offering income vs. fundraising income, separately. Our rationale for keeping these categories separate was that we found that our fundraisers generated large contributions but happened only 2 or 3 times a years and could not be held more often. These fundraisers caused average monthly income to swing higher during the month of the fundraiser and gave a different financial trend than during other non-fundraising months. The regular, non-fundraising months are what we use to base our initial budget on. The fundraiser income gives us the extra income for large projects or unexpected expenses. We add the fundraiser income to the first past of the budget based on our projection as to how often we will be able to do this fundraiser in the next year and what we project to raise from the fundraiser next year. We, likewise, believe it is important to track these two categories separately (regular income vs. fundraising income) even if you combined them in the end. Patrice Finance Chair St. Peter's UMC Oxford, NC xpdunn at aol.com ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aol hom00030000000001) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner , and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/5d5a5ebd/attachment.html From Don.Horne at tumc-jax.org Tue Apr 1 19:31:18 2008 From: Don.Horne at tumc-jax.org (Don Horne) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:31:18 -0400 Subject: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving References: <98B31250F7D9404C98AE897C39AA2352@tumcjax.local> Message-ID: We, too have used Vanco's electronic tithing program for the past 2-3 years. It has worked extremely well for us with no problems at all; however, we have had very weak participation. I am now undertaking a little campaign to encourage more to participate in the program. Would be glad to talk to anyone who might want to consider it. You can email me at trinityfinance at embarqmail.com or call me at 910-455-4814 at Trinity UMC. Don Horne, Financial Officer Trinity UMC Jacksonville, NC 28540 ________________________________ From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org on behalf of Jane Millen Sent: Tue 4/1/2008 6:00 PM To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Subject: Re: [LCFinance] FW: Online Giving We have used Vanco for several years and the number of members who use the system has steadily increased. I am not aware of any problems we have had other than a glitch when someone changed bank accounts. Some of our members who are used to doing everything electronically really appreciate having it available. If you have specific questions feel free to contact me - our Financial Secretary handles that end of the process but I can put you in contact with her. Jane Millen Resurrection UMC Durham jane.millen at mac.com On Monday, March 31, 2008, at 02:21PM, "Christine Dodson" wrote: >Do any of you use the UM Electronic Giving program? Would you like to >share how that is working out for you? > > > >Thanks! > >Christine > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: Kathy Rattie [mailto:krattie at embarqmail.com] >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:06 PM >To: Christine Dodson >Subject: Online Giving > > > >We are looking into including online giving on our church website. >We've looked at Electronic Giving for United Methodist Churches website >and are very interested. Are there any churches locally that are using >this type of giving and if so how well is it working? > >Thanks in advance for your help. > >Kathy Rattie, Treasurer >Christ Community UMC >Clayton, NC > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner , and is > >believed to be clean. > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ LCFinance mailing list LCFinance at listserv.nccumc.org http://listserv.nccumc.org/mailman/listinfo/lcfinance -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: msg-10475-2591.txt Url: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080401/b797c643/attachment.txt From nhumc2 at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 11 20:47:24 2008 From: nhumc2 at bellsouth.net (nhumc2 at bellsouth.net) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:47:24 +0000 Subject: [LCFinance] Non-cash donations Message-ID: <041220080047.11441.4800069C0003D67E00002CB122230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCD0C039A0802@att.net> Is anyone using a spreadsheet or form to record non-cash donations to the church? We have a form that members can complete for income tax purposes. That form we photocopy and keep the copy and return the signed original to the giver. I'm looking for a form, then, that can be used to record such giving - especially items donated for fund raisers like chicken dinners, auctions, yard sales that help support the churches missions. I understand that the value of such can be reported in the annual report of giving. If anyone has already created such a spreadsheet, it would save me some time. Otherwise, I'll start from scratch and share. Thanks in advance! Diane Kester, Treasurer & Newsletter editor New Hope United Methodist Church 200 E. New Hope Road Goldsboro, NC 27534 919-778-1124 nhumc2 at bellsouth.net -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080412/9ecf65c0/attachment.html From Amie at centralbuildersinc.com Thu Apr 17 10:45:06 2008 From: Amie at centralbuildersinc.com (Amie Perkins) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:45:06 -0400 Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting Message-ID: <9C65E6EB35E3D248A7457C12EA17811C1BABCD@FILESERVER.centralbuildersincofmebane.local> I have been charged with creating computerized bookkeeping for our church. I own a copy of Quickbooks 2006, but I am lost as far as setting up the designated giving, donations, etc. as needed for an non-profit. Can anyone offer any help, advice or a chart of accounts for Quickbooks? Or does anyone have an inexpensive alternative? TIA, Amie Perkins Haw River UMC -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080417/ce3e50e2/attachment.html From cwstan at earthlink.net Thu Apr 17 11:54:36 2008 From: cwstan at earthlink.net (Brenda Berry) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:54:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting Message-ID: <2468412.1208447676961.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080417/ebdbb11e/attachment.html From webteach at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 17 12:04:23 2008 From: webteach at nc.rr.com (Diane Kester) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:04:23 -0400 Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting In-Reply-To: <2468412.1208447676961.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.s a.earthlink.net> References: <2468412.1208447676961.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20080417160514.ZZML5568.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@DG2TYC21.nc.rr.com> Brenda, Do you have any trouble with tracking details with CW? I've used QuickBooks for so many years that I have not been able to use CW for financial successfully. We use CW for contributions. Diane ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Diane Kester, Treasurer & Newsletter editor New Hope United Methodist Church 200 E. New Hope Road Goldsboro, NC 27534 919-778-1124 nhumc2 at bellsouth.net At 11:54 AM 04/17/2008, you wrote: >You might want to look at the software called Church Windows in >which you can house not only the financial but the membership data >as well as contributions. It is designed for churches and the way >we operate! Brenda > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Amie Perkins >Sent: Apr 17, 2008 10:45 AM >To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org >Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting > > > >I have been charged with creating computerized bookkeeping for our >church. I own a copy of Quickbooks 2006, but I am lost as far as >setting up the designated giving, donations, etc. as needed for an non-profit. > > > >Can anyone offer any help, advice or a chart of accounts for >Quickbooks? Or does anyone have an inexpensive alternative? > > > >TIA, > > > >Amie Perkins > > >Haw River UMC > > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >_______________________________________________ >LCFinance mailing list >LCFinance at listserv.nccumc.org >http://listserv.nccumc.org/mailman/listinfo/lcfinance -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080417/defb09e6/attachment.html From ellenfchambers at mindspring.com Thu Apr 17 13:49:06 2008 From: ellenfchambers at mindspring.com (ellenfchambers at mindspring.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:49:06 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting Message-ID: <33353948.1208454547126.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080417/4c531edd/attachment.html From tomschmidt at embarqmail.com Thu Apr 17 15:28:49 2008 From: tomschmidt at embarqmail.com (Tom Schmidt) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:28:49 -0400 Subject: [LCFinance] non-cash donations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006701c8a0c1$43968790$0200a8c0@thomas> Our church uses a combination of CCIS, a church management program and QuickBooks. All member records, their pledges, donations, and contributions to include "non-cash" gifts are recorded in CCIS and then the cash gifts are exported to QuickBooks. Reporting of member pledges and gifts is through the CCIS program. CCIS allows you to handle a gift that might be split. For example, someone might choose to give $50 for a $10 plate of Chicken. The $40 will show as a contribution and the $10 as goods received. As for the value of non-cash donations it is our understanding that the donor must set the value of a gift, not the church. Therefore we simply record the gift but do not attempt to set or appraise any gift. Tom Schmidt Church Treasurer Havelock First United Methodist Church (252) 447-3541 TomSchmidt at embarqmail.com -----Original Message----- From: lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org [mailto:lcfinance-bounces at listserv.nccumc.org] On Behalf Of lcfinance-request at listserv.nccumc.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:49 PM To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org Subject: LCFinance Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 Send LCFinance mailing list submissions to lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserv.nccumc.org/mailman/listinfo/lcfinance or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lcfinance-request at listserv.nccumc.org You can reach the person managing the list at lcfinance-owner at listserv.nccumc.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LCFinance digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Non-cash donations (nhumc2 at bellsouth.net) 2. Church Accounting (Amie Perkins) 3. Re: Church Accounting (Brenda Berry) 4. Re: Church Accounting (Diane Kester) 5. Re: Church Accounting (ellenfchambers at mindspring.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:47:24 +0000 From: nhumc2 at bellsouth.net Subject: [LCFinance] Non-cash donations To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org Message-ID: <041220080047.11441.4800069C0003D67E00002CB122230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C0404 0A0DBFCD0C039A0802 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is anyone using a spreadsheet or form to record non-cash donations to the church? We have a form that members can complete for income tax purposes. That form we photocopy and keep the copy and return the signed original to the giver. I'm looking for a form, then, that can be used to record such giving - especially items donated for fund raisers like chicken dinners, auctions, yard sales that help support the churches missions. I understand that the value of such can be reported in the annual report of giving. If anyone has already created such a spreadsheet, it would save me some time. Otherwise, I'll start from scratch and share. Thanks in advance! Diane Kester, Treasurer & Newsletter editor New Hope United Methodist Church 200 E. New Hope Road Goldsboro, NC 27534 919-778-1124 nhumc2 at bellsouth.net -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080412/9ecf65c0 /attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:45:06 -0400 From: "Amie Perkins" Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting To: Message-ID: <9C65E6EB35E3D248A7457C12EA17811C1BABCD at FILESERVER.centralbuildersincofmeban e.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have been charged with creating computerized bookkeeping for our church. I own a copy of Quickbooks 2006, but I am lost as far as setting up the designated giving, donations, etc. as needed for an non-profit. Can anyone offer any help, advice or a chart of accounts for Quickbooks? Or does anyone have an inexpensive alternative? TIA, Amie Perkins Haw River UMC -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080417/ce3e50e2 /attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:54:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Brenda Berry Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Church Accounting To: Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Message-ID: <2468412.1208447676961.JavaMail.root at elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.nccumc.org/pipermail/lcfinance/attachments/20080417/ebdbb11e /attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:04:23 -0400 From: Diane Kester Subject: Re: [LCFinance] Church Accounting To: Brenda Berry , Local Church Finance Committee and Treasurers Message-ID: <20080417160514.ZZML5568.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com at DG2TYC21.nc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Brenda, Do you have any trouble with tracking details with CW? I've used QuickBooks for so many years that I have not been able to use CW for financial successfully. We use CW for contributions. Diane ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Diane Kester, Treasurer & Newsletter editor New Hope United Methodist Church 200 E. New Hope Road Goldsboro, NC 27534 919-778-1124 nhumc2 at bellsouth.net At 11:54 AM 04/17/2008, you wrote: >You might want to look at the software called Church Windows in >which you can house not only the financial but the membership data >as well as contributions. It is designed for churches and the way >we operate! Brenda > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Amie Perkins >Sent: Apr 17, 2008 10:45 AM >To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org >Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting > > > >I have been charged with creating computerized bookkeeping for our >church. I own a copy of Quickbooks 2006, but I am lost as far as >setting up the designated giving, donations, etc. as needed for an non-profit. > > > >Can anyone offer any help, advice or a chart of accounts for >Quickbooks? Or does anyone have an inexpensive alternative? > > > >TIA, > > > >Amie Perkins > > >Haw River UMC > > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >_______________________________________________ >LCFinance mailing list >LCFinance at listserv.nccumc.org >http://listserv.nccumc.org/mailman/listinfo/lcfinance -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From jddretired at ec.rr.com Thu Apr 17 17:11:59 2008 From: jddretired at ec.rr.com (John Daniel) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:11:59 -0400 Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting References: <9C65E6EB35E3D248A7457C12EA17811C1BABCD@FILESERVER.centralbuildersincofmebane.local> Message-ID: <003301c8a0cf$ad0b9130$0301a8c0@NewFamily> Hi Amie, I use Classes to separate restricted and designated funds from the General Funds. I also use classes for memorial funds and endowment receipts. Dave Daniel Zion Umc ----- Original Message ----- From: Amie Perkins To: lcfinance at listserv.nccumc.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: [LCFinance] Church Accounting I have been charged with creating computerized bookkeeping for our church. I own a copy of Quickbooks 2006, but I am lost as far as setting up the designated giving, donations, etc. as needed for an non-profit. Can anyone offer any help, advice or a chart of accounts for Quickbooks? Or does anyone have an inexpensive alternative? 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